Israeli Minister Elkin: Syrian S-300s will be attacked if Israeli military or commercial planes hit
Israel warned publicly for the first time that its air force would strike Syria’s S-300 air defense weapons supplied by Russia and Russian personnel could be in jeopardy. On Monday, Nov. 6, Ze’ev Elkin, minister for Jerusalem affairs and the environment said that Israel will attack Syria’s new Russian S-300 air defense systems if they are used against Israeli jets, Addressing Russian media in a rare briefing, Elkin, who is co-chair of the Russia-Israel Intergovernmental Commission, criticized Moscow, saying: “We consider the very fact of shipping S-300 to Syria a big mistake. The Syrian military are not always capable of correctly using the hardware transferred to them. In case of improper operation, civilian aircrafts may be harmed,” he said.
The minister, a member of Israel’s security cabinet, made these remarks after a month during which Israel refrained from air strikes over Syria and Russia had begun installing the first S-300s with Syrian operational teams.
“The Syrians, if they ever want to, might use [these systems] to down an Israeli military or commercial plane over Israeli territory,” Elkin said: “Considering the mess that is going on in the Syrian Army, shipping S-300s might lead to destabilization of the situation.” Pointing again at Moscow, the Israeli minister went on to say: “By shipping these kinds of weapons to Syrians, Russia bears partial responsibility for their use,” Elkin went on to warn: “Usually, Israel reacts to attacks on its territory and its aircraft not through international demarches, but with practical actions. Actions would undoubtedly take place, should [an attack] occur, against the launchers used to attack Israeli territory or Israeli planes.”
“I hope greatly that there would be no Russian military specialists [at S-300 sites],” he continued. “Israel has for all these years been doing everything it can to make sure Russian military personnel are not harmed. The Iranians have repeatedly used the Russian military as a living shield and conducted arms relocation operations under the cover of the Russian military presence.”
Elkin claimed that, according to Israeli intelligence, the Iranian military has attempted to use Russian military bases for arms shipment operations. “We have good enough intelligence regarding Iranian actions, and we know how to warn our Russian colleagues about such attempts in time.”
A response from Moscow will no doubt be coming for the first direct criticism by an Israeli minister of Russian actions in Syria.
Waiting for a response from the Soviets (oops—————-I meant the Russians)!
Israel wouldn’t dare attack these systems this is just bluster.
You know nothing of geo-politics. Go gobble your turds
You don’t understand, Russia has ‘painted Israel into a corner”. The Israelis will have no choice but to respond. They cannot let Iran and Syria continue to build up unchecked. Its only creating a bigger mess later – and that is coming anyway. Russia, through its own actions, has declared war on Israel. It has just used the shooting down of the Russian spy plane by incompetent Syrians – to allow Israel’s other enemies to build up. Its sad, but also good that finally we see Israel now declaring it will treat Russian forces as enemy combatants. One way or another, Russian weapons and assets must be and will be neutralized.
Israel may cause World War Three through its actions in Syria. Is Israel ready to fight a world war?
stop exaggerating. dont worry.. Aliens from another planet will come and stop the war.
Israel has approximately 320 nuclear weapons and the aircraft, missiles, subs to carry the weapons.
The Jews were industrially exterminated in Germany in WWII. The State of Israel has declared, “Never Again.” And, they mean it. Russia is quite a ways away from Israel. Logistics comes into play. The Russians (Soviets, to me) have their most important goal, a warm-water port in the eastern Mediterranean, at Targus Syria. The Soviets want to control Syria to control the oil flowing from the middle east to Europe. Plus, the Soviets sell lots of stuff to Iran. So, the Soviets want to stay in Syria for 3 reasons: 1. Soviet base on eastern Mediterranean, 2. Soviet control (choke-hold) on trans-Syrian oil shipments, & 3. cash from Syria, Iran, etc.
The Israelis have declared the “Solomon Option”, which is that Israel will destroy European capitals if Europe allows Israel to be destroyed. The Israelis have received $3 billion from the US for 50 years. Israel buys US military equipment and modifies same. IE, the F15-E, Strike Eagle becomes the F15I, for Israel. The Israelis will fight to the death to protect Israel AND destroy Israel’s enemies.
Putin understands this. If Israel destroys the Soviet base at Targus on the eastern Mediterranean, the Soviets might try some “tit-for-tat”, but that is all. Israel has the ability and the will to inflict horrendous damage on the Soviets. Two (2) nukes should do just fine. Moscow – gone. Pick any second target you like.
Putin will push his ‘allies’ to get as much as he can, but Putin will not risk Russia.
The G-d of Israel and The People of Israel will thwart Iranian Nazi Regime and their Russian Supporters of Genocide!
Yes, it was said Nato would not attack Syria too, we all saw how that turned out, Russia did nothing.
First Russia cannot afford to fight a protracted War in the Middle East, does not have the supplies, troops, or logistics to pull it off. If they shot down a commercial Airliner like they did in the Ukraine and it turned out to be an Israeli Commercial Airliner, Everything Russian and Iranian would be Erased from Syria including Assad within 2 weeks period.
yaaaayyyyy!!! the new soothsayer has arrived.
on that day, that the glory of Jacob shall become impoverished and the fatness of his flesh shall become emaciated.
5. And it shall be like gathering the harvest of the standing grain, and his arm reaps ears, and he shall be as one who gathers ears of grain in the valley of Rephaim.
6. And gleanings shall be left in it like the cutting of an olive tree, two or three berries at the end of the uppermost bough; four or five on its branches when it produces fruit, says the Lord, God of Israel.
On that day, man shall turn to his Maker, and his eyes shall look to the Holy One of Israel.
And he shall not turn to the altar of the work of his hands, and what his fingers made he shall not regard, neither the asherim nor the sun-images.
On that day, the cities of his strength shall be like the abandonment of the forest and the many branched trees which they abandoned from before the children of Israel, and it became a waste.
For you forgot the God of your salvation, and the Rock of your strength you did not remember; because I planted you with pleasant saplings, and with the branch of a stranger you sow it. Discuss…
discuss? Yes, the “emendations” of the rabbis have indeed caused the Jewish nation to forget who their Maker really is, but a similar process has occurred in the christian community, and of course islam is off the charts with corruption. What can we do but ask Yah for better days, and more receptive hearts? Blessed he who comes in the name of y h w h.
But the prophet Isaiah in Chapter 17 (NIV) nevertheless prophesies a terrible end for the enemy and that El Shaddai will drive them away.
You have forgotten God your Savior;
you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress.
Therefore, though you set out the finest plants
and plant imported vines,
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though on the day you set them out, you make them grow,
and on the morning when you plant them, you bring them to bud,
yet the harvest will be as nothing
in the day of disease and incurable pain.
12
Woe to the many nations that rage—
they rage like the raging sea!
Woe to the peoples who roar—
they roar like the roaring of great waters!
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Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters,
when he rebukes them they flee far away,
driven before the wind like chaff on the hills,
like tumbleweed before a gale.
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In the evening, sudden terror!
Before the morning, they are gone!
This is the portion of those who loot us,
the lot of those who plunder us.
Absolutely Isiah:17 is on the horizon! ….. Damascus will be GONE. Followed up by the Psalm 83 war which will effectively disarm the Muslim countries surrounding Israel.
or not.
Either forgive or you will be punished. anyone cheering on apocalypse will suffer for eternity
Give us the King James Bible please, not this liberal perversion. Thank you
Why? the King James version has over 800 errors
Said someone who can count them all, . . . give the page, chapter, and verse, . . . and a full dissertation on the reasons for thinking there are errors there. Go home sonny, . . . take your liberal would be scholars with you, . . .
well said. the russians/soviets have given a bunch of incompetent syrians the best anti air system in the world the s-300 (only the s-400 is better) and the minister is correct in that the syrians from their own territory can down israeli fighter jets or civilian planes in israeli airspace.
this is a dangerous very grave mistake and massive escalation from russia and basic act of war by russia against israel. of course if used against israel in any way the s-300 missiles and launchers must be destroyed- if any personnel at those sites are hit that is their problem for being there and helping to attack israel whether they are syrian or russian troops.
Neither the S-300 nor the S-400 is the best system in the world, nor will be the S-500 or S-600. Stop pushing Russian troll hype.
So which ones are better, in order please and why
You tell us what makes the S-400 “the best”. Is it combat-tested? Can it take down ICBM’s or Katyushas? How would it withstand an attack by HAARM’s? It can’t even provide a target-quality track on stealth aircraft. The Russian soldiers operating such systems are more of a concern than the system itself, human shields to trigger a bigger war.
Let’s have a World War Three to find out the answer to your question.
“Russia bears partial responsibility for their use.”
No, Russia bears ENTIRE responsibility for their use.
Russia is responsible for one thing for saving Israel and Americans neo cons from fighting with Igil , ISIS , 0 groups, Taliban –around 30 groups all from Afghanistan , around 3 Armies of volunteers from Pakistan , around 3 Armies from Central Asia ;
Elkin should hide himself in his own hole and speak less , since if not Russia , there would be no Israel , and it would fight not the endless Balloons fight with people that burned the South of Israel to the ground , but with really potent Armies of cut throat people , Israel, nor all that western civilization is not trained or equipped to fight against. Whether Elkin likes or not those all are coming and they all at Israeli doors . Therefore Israeli ministers of all walks should all keep quiet and thank Russia for holding those nomadic tribes away , since those will leave no one in Israel alive , if they just come to it . Look at Jordan very carefully –you will see it all there very soon , before it happens in Israel–no one will help not French, Americans Israelis or USA –THERE ARE 4 MILLION of those are refugees in there –and they are there to stay, while Israel will pay with water and other resources the monthly fee for not being directly involved in that horror .What if it transfers to Israel ? What than Elkin friends will do ? nuke themselves????
says the communist who is enslaved to his masters. Go fuck yerself. Putin ordered you too minion! HA HA HA! B!TCH BOY has no say in his government and expects respect!
Correct, because they have been integrated into the entire Russian Air Defence umbrella after the recent event when a Russian plane was downed. After that event the Russians blamed two Israeli jets for drawing fire and then darting away to leave the ‘defenceless’ plane to be shot down by Syria. That is a poor excuse. Whether S-300/400 or Syrian jets, the Russian plane’s identification codes to the Syrian systems should have made it invisible to them as far as being a target is concerned. Apparently not, since Putin then ordered the entire Syrian s-300/400 to be integrated into the Russian, ensuring Russian control so that another incident won’t happen. Israel missed a PR opportunity to push back on the Russian blame game. Perhaps no-one informed him of what must have happened which is why Bibi is pushing back this way.
@Alex… there you go again about WW3…. stop blowing things out of proportion!!!
will Israel shoot down a commercial airliner to gain pretext for more strikes? Israeli airfields should be targeted if S-300 are attacked.
They don’t need a pretext….Iranian activity in Syria has to be neutralized.
Its not going to be “tit for tat”. If anything “Israeli” is harmed by Russian weapons – the whole area will be ablaze, as Russian forces will respond under the pretext of self-defense – then Israel will use that situation to destroy everything that Russia has in the area. Russia has over-played its hand. Russia needs to GO HOME.
Do not under estimate Russian abilities, they can destroy the entire Israely airforce in day by over whelming air defences with cruise missiles that could reach isreal from the mainland, air and naval launches, they dont need nukes to do this
another one like Alex. can you think of more extreme scenarios?
Don´t attack Syria , and you will be safe . If you attack your neybours don´t cry , when revenge wil
came . Make peace and live in peace . Make war and live with war . Is Israels choice .
“Don´t attack Syria , and you will be safe . If you attack your neybours don´t cry , when revenge wil
came . Make peace and live in peace . Make war and live with war . Is Israels choice .”
@ “Abraham”,
It’s got to be just so nice and convenient to be able to live so far away from all the danger and make a comment like that.
ISIS is all but defeated in Syria but Iranian and their Shiite militia proxy forces remain………….what does that tell you?
The only Country seeking to widen the war in Syria and Yemen is Iran. President Putin knows the game of chess well and will not be a sacrificed pawn by the Mullahs suicidal plans.
” President Putin knows the game of chess well and will not be a sacrificed pawn by the Mullahs suicidal plans.”
@Moishe,
At the moment, President Putin doesn’t seem to be behaving like he’s actually taking that into account.
He has some very bad advisors like Stalin had.
The Free Syrian Army (FSA) should get MANPADS and Israel should start selling weapons to Ukraine since Ukraine has requested this from Israel but Israel has not done this due to Putin’s requests. Iran is paying Russia for these Russian S-300s in Syria since Assad cannot afford these expensive weapons. How many times did I say over the last few years that Iran is paying Russia in Syria and not the other way around? Thus, nothing that Bibi could say to Putin unless it was in billions of currency could result in Iran being put down.
Do you people not understand? Iran, Hezbolah and Syria have a goal and that is to take back the Golan, Sheba Farms, and make the Palestinian life a little better. Turkey, Jordan, and Egypt want Palestine under their control. The Sunni Empire in the Middle East and under Turkish rule. For those of you quoting scripture, doesn’t like 2/3rds of the people die.
1/3. Not 2/3. Revelation chapter 8 sheds light on the 3rds.
“Do you people not understand? Iran, Hezbolah and Syria have a goal and that is to take back the Golan, Sheba Farms, and make the Palestinian life a little better. ———”
@ “Knowledgeable Professor”,
Yes……………..life inside the Palestinian refugee camps within Syria is just……. “fantastic”………and always has been, right?
Sounds like Russian roulette, 21st c. style.
It is not “IF” but rather, . . . WHEN, . . . the IDF decides to take out the Russian toys, . . . it will just be done.
Stupid goat herding rag heads will pop a missile at the wrong plane (surprised they haven’t already) and then it will be game on. And there should be a ton of ordinance on Tehran, . . . just for good measure.
Once the death from the sky begins to get Iranian civilian’s attention, . . . they will divest themselves of the pedophile ayatollahs and make peace.
missile pop? done, on the russians already. But regime change? dream on, foreign attack only unifies a people against the foreigners. Check out every regime change in north africa/mid east to date, and see it is true. Or else it creates chaotic instability and lasting enmity. Only Yah has the answers.
THEY ARE CAMELPHILES NOT PEDOPHILES
Prophet Mohammed Poison Putin is Just Feeling like a BIG FOOL even though he is just a little Short Arsed weasal that his Military Plane that was Targeted and Downed by his Best friend another Poisoner Killer the Famous Chemical Allie President Assad.
Assads Incompetent Military Henchmen and Mohammed Poison Putins Islamic Network is 100% responsible as you are both the 2 X Failed Leaders trying to Govern a Circus of Clowns but dont blame the Great Israeli Airforce for your Failed and Delusional War Strategy…Facts not Prophet Mohammed PUTINS Delusional Fiction.
the Israelis wont do jack shit…… they know if they strike an s300 system and rusky casualties occur that the russians will be retaliating real bad .
the biggest mistake the israelies did was letting the iranians dwell that far into syria… but again politics has no religion …. maybe all of what we are seeing are the results of endless political deals done under the table between the israelies,russians,iranians
ARE YOU JOKING? IN SYRIA IN WAR IS TRIGGERED BEETWEN ISRAEL AND RUSSIA RUSSIA WILL BE BEATEN SO BADLY THAT IT WILL SHUT UP FOR A CENTURY. IN ANY SCENARIO RUSSIA IS BEATEN BY ISRAEL.
I MUST REMEMBER YOU THAT RUSSIA HAS NEVER WONA WAR. EVERY TIME RUSSIA WENT TO WAR IT FOUGHT PEOPLE ARMED WITH AK 47
they gave napoleon, the japanese, and hitler a few nasty surprises, and none had 47’s. Even israel’s “200?” nukes would not defeat russia, and why would it want to?
Yeah, Russians never won a war, WWII? it rings a bell for you? They’ve pushed out and defeated the most powerful army in the word at that time, and fighting with outdated weapons. You should read more history books my friend.
Russkis were about to be wiped out by Germans in 1942. The West saved their sorry asses by arms and materials deliveries. Those deliveries continued until the end of war. That is how they won. It was a tragic mistake of the western leaders.
here we go again. more exaggerations
i dont understand why israelis responsables continue to think that russian is a friend with what it did in syrian giving to arms to kill destroy israel.
i dont understand why israel responsable cannot denounce russia clearly
every one knows that russia is pouring fuel in syria to help israel enemies to fight jews ?
RUSSIA BY ITS ACTIONS IS TAKING PART TO WAR ASIDE IRAN AND SYRIAN AGAINST ISRAEL
RUSSIA IS AN ENEMY FOR ISRAEL THAT IS CLEAR AND AS ENEMY IT WILL BE FIGHT.
BIBI YOU MADE A BIG MISTAKE WHEN YOU RESPONDED TO PUTIN’s invitation FOR ITS MILITARY PARADE IN MAY
BIBI YOU NEED TO CHANGE YOUR POSITION TO RUSSIA !!!! RUSSIA IS LARGELY INFERIOR TO ISRAEL IN TERM OF ECONOMY TECHNOLOGY CULTURE AND SO ON !!!! YOU NEED TO UNDERNAD IT BIBI RUSSIA IS AN ENEMY WHEN IT IS ABOUT ISRAEL RUSSIA IS JEALOUS OF ISRAEL
First of all, you are an imbecile. Just what offensive arms were given by Russians to the Syrians? Who authorised Israel to attack targets on foreign soil? Russia is pouring fuel in Syria to help Israel enemies fight jews? Just who was it that helped ISIS with intelligence data from their satelites? Israel, UK, France and USA. Who helped ISIS with hospital treatment of their fighters? Israel. Who provided logistical support to ISIS? Israel? Who created ISIS? USA, Saudis, Qataris, UK and Israel.
And lastly, You are and imbecile…
YOUR SHARMOUTA MOTHER THINKS HE IS BRIGHT!
“And lastly, You are and imbecile…”
@Kilroy,
There are no mistakes in grammar allowed in your own comments, even an inadvertent inclusion of an extraneous letter, if you want to refer to someone else as an “imbecile”.
Strike an s300. And that will be the last strike ever from Israel
Let’s see how Israel handles a Satan II?
THE SAME WAY WE HAVE HANDLED EVERY ENEMY. WITH VICTORY. NOW GO BACK TO PLEASURING YOUR CAMELS.
kilroy, i really don’t like ad hominem attacks, but clearly “deby” is not playing with a full deck. or has a lot of stock in the arms industry.
what a looser position: if israel territory or israeli plane are hit we would hit the system you have put in Syria. what a loosing position,
If Israel is hit, Russia should be hit as sole responsible. We are very far from that threat, and it means a lot on how Israel military & diplomaty see themselves in regard to Russia one,s
I think Russia will not attempt to upset Israel in any way. there would be two issues.
1. will the USA intercede now that Russia is in the game? after all, Russia may have nukes, but that is all. its a deterrent against the invasion of its territory, not a client state territory.
2. If Israel shows that the a-300 has been destroyed, it is not good for Russian arms sales anywhere else.
Putin would also be shown as not invincible at home either, especially with Russian deaths elsewhere.
I am positive Israel has on a number of occasions wanted to really go after Iranian assets in Syria and Iraq, but the USA (trump) has asked them not to and to wait out the sanctions effectiveness.
expect over time that it will have a huge effect on the population of Iran and they will go to the streets.
this is where the USA can help, by encouraging them to overthrow the regime, who by then will be weakened. the embargo will slowly squeeze the life out of the regime as a boa constrictor does, slowly but effectively.
lastly, Russia is not stupid. they will never allow the Syrians to man the A300. they already paid once for this stupidity.
Yes, indeed, sanctions works, look at Cuba! the thing is that Iranian people have a very deep entrenched grudge with the americans. USA has been meddling in Iranian internal affairs since Sha Pahlevi times, I don’t foresee in near future a coup to overthrow the mulas, in fact, is totally the other way around, every time that americans notch up sanctions they make the mulas stronger.
Intelligent and accurate.
Bluestering and chest tumping as usual from the Israelis. Go ahead, try to bomb the S-300 and you’ll see a swarm of S-400 missiles going after your planes, do you think the Russians are there for what? They want Assad to succeed, so your plans of regime change in Syria are already doomed from the start.
The S-300 will be maned by Iranians and overseen by Wagner officers. Wagner is a Russian non-governmental military organization. The US killed about 200 Russian Wagner soldiers so far this year. There was no rebuke from Putin. The Wagners will make sure the Iranians don’t down a Russian plane unless required to do so by Moscow to provoke a regional war in the Middle East. Moscow may opt in for such a provocation if requested by China. The latter might happen if the US doesn’t rescind the tariffs on Chinese imports into US and keeps harassing the Chinese navy in the South China sea. Neither the Jews nor the Arabs or the Turks or the Iranians will have any say in this geopolitical game.
Russian Wagner Officers meaning in Plain ENGLISH…=..RUSSIAN SOLDIERS/RUSSAIN REBELS…..Facts not RUSSIAN Fiction.
In 1980 the Russians decided to test America’s newest fighter aircraft the F-15 eagle that were just being used in service by Israel. The Syrian air force took on the task and were blown out of the skies. Today Russia is again testing the West newest stealth aircraft the F-22, and the F-35 with their S-300 air defense system. Let the games begin.
You lost the war in Syria my little jews! Stay calm or the apocalypse will happen !
WAR is only starting for Israel,USA,EU,UK,Plus many more in Syria the Israeli and USA restraint has been amazingly patient and down right STUPID by Israel and USA, but now Mohammed Bin Poison Putin is going to REAP what he SOWS… BIG MISTAKE.
Prophet Mohammed Poison Putin knows this after 5 years of Syria Failure the REAL WAR will start as Muslim Jihadi Poison Putin is a sort of BAD CHESS player but he will certainly know that when the Grandmasters of Chess Start the REAL WAR then its Cheque Mate for Israel ,USA EU,UK Forces.
Stay Calm you Russian Islamic Poison Killers as the Great Apocalypse is coming to the Russian Aggressers in Syria and Ukraine and in Russian Cities itself Start Praying you DOGS of Russia…Facts not backward Russian Fiction.
Keep calm moshe. Bashar el assad win the war, you will not be able to do anything. The Syrians have already destroyed 5 israeli planes with S200, so immagine with S300 …
Syrians and Iranians are the kings of the Middle East. Israel must obey or ask for help from their father trump hahaha
Stay away from Syria’s airspace and negotiating with Russia keep Iran’s military installation 100 km away from the Israeli’s borders will be reasonable and safe strategy.
Negociate with Poutin ???
Bibi is negociating every day with Poutin-chessmaster since the day smart Obama gave Poutin syrian territory.
Why 320 nuclear b, Mister Chessmaster Poutin ?
– For Iran ?
– Wrong ! One for Iran is too much !
Now, Chessmaster-Poutin, You think you put Bibi on the corner ?
– Wrong again, Chessmaster, You are…
-Cause to day, You understand Why 320 nb, Why F22i and why F35i.
– Cause Israël has long ago taken account of the new Hitler coming…
Sorry, Chesmaster-Hitler !